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John Jay Article

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Hey, I don't know how to leave a signature so sorry about that but saw your edit. Those were college majors (have provided a link to the correct source), I don't know if it's against WP policy to list the majors the college offers (if it does, please feel free to let me know or undo it and I apologize) but wanted to give you the heads up. Anyway, it is dedicated to Criminal Justice, hence the college's name (John Jay College of Criminal Justice). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.108.33 (talk • contribs) 22:16, November 4, 2021 (UTC)

Muhlenberg College

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Your removed two of the three points in the "In popular culture" section with a cursory statement that they told the reader nothing about the college. A page's "In popular culture" section by definition doesn't necessarily tell the reader about the page's topic, instead it is an indication of the topic's influence in the wider culture. The reference to the Frank Zappa recording is in keeping with the types of things typically mentioned in such "In popular culture" sections. It is a claim to fame of a small academic institution and should not have been removed.

But even if it were necessary for content to tell the reader about the topic of the page, that criterion would have been met with the reference to the Zero Day series. Not just any college was selected for the reference as the common alma mater of two of the characters. Muhlenberg was selected because it is a small liberal arts college with a center-left bent like the characters. It has a history rooted in Christian faith, which is important because the characters believed they are acting in keeping with their moral compass. Per the series, Muhlenberg is the kind of sheltered academic setting where ideas are explored and the character, veteran Erik Hayes, could heal from the trauma endured from multiple tours of duty in war zones. That reference to Muhlenberg College actually told the reader a lot about the school. It should not have been removed. IndigoSalisbury (talk) 21:23, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We're not here to document "claims to fame" for any subject. Our current guidance for the contents of college and university articles says this about "popular culture" sections: "If there are numerous reliable sources that discuss the institution's influence on popular culture then it may be appropriate to have a brief section describing that influence and offering well-known, pertinent examples. Such a section should not be an indiscriminate list of instances where the college or university is mentioned (in movies, books, television shows, etc.) nor should the section offer examples and discussion selected only by Wikipedia editors."
Do you have any reliable sources that describe the relationship between the Zero Day series and the college? ElKevbo (talk) 21:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 22 March 2025

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Image recently added to and removed from Harvard Law School

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Hello. My edit was my private image and helpful to Harvard law school. Keshavarz Mohammad Javad (talk) 19:29, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I respectfully disagree that the image is helpful to readers of that article. You are welcome to open a discussion in the article's Talk page to see what other editors think and get further feedback. ElKevbo (talk) 23:01, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Academy of Vocal Arts Article

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Good day sir, I noticed you reverted the article on Academy of Vocal Arts, saying it's clearly promotional and unsourced.

To better my contribution on Wikipedia, can you tell me why you thought the editing violates WP's guideline, and why you thought it's promotional?

Also, if I expand or bring outdated article to live, is it must that I should source?

Will gladly wait for your response Petermach (talk) 06:10, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The material that I removed was completely unsourced and much of it was clearly promotional (e.g., "They work hard with good teachers through instruction, coaching, and performance opportunities" and "In 2024, AVA celebrated its 90th anniversary with a series of events and performances, highlighting its enduring commitment to operatic excellence."). I strongly recommend reviewing WP:NPOV and providing reliable sources that support material if you edit the article again in the future. If you need help, please ask! ElKevbo (talk) 02:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot sir, I really do appreciate your correction, support and guide.
Thanks also for the links, it really does help answer most of my questions.
I hope I can reach out anytime if I needed more clarity on anything I am confused about 🙏 Petermach (talk) 06:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Crest College

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Hello,

You recently undid changes to the Wikipedia article on Cedar Crest College. In your explanation, you admitted that the article was too detailed, so I am wondering why you reverted to the "too detailed" version?

Of note: You undid an update to their current enrollment numbers which included a valid citation; you re-entered the sentence, "The campus includes buildings containing libraries, classrooms, administrative offices, pools, theaters, fitness studios, and dining halls." The campus includes buildings...that seems an obvious candidate for a cleanup; you reinstated a 25-year history of a softball field that was built in 2024.

I'm willing to admit that I may have had a heavy hand in my edits if you can agree that this article was poorly written and needs to be reassessed.

My most pressing concern is the reliance on old enrollment information in your revision - my update to this was is cited and should be fixed. Potential students and faculty should be able to look to Wikipedia for the most recently collected and submitted information. (Your revision falsely increased actual enrollment by 5.74% and undergraduate enrollment by 7%)

Appreciate all you do, and hopefully some of which you undo. ;-) 23.28.12.65 (talk) 02:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the question. Your edit said that you "[r]emoved marketing materials not appropriate for an encyclopedia and updated enrollment numbers." I do not agree that the material was "marketing materials." And without a source it's impossible to know if the enrollment numbers you provided are correct. ElKevbo (talk) 02:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my edit - it did include a citation from USNews, a reliable source of self-reported information from the college - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cedar_Crest_College&oldid=1282616922
And, I agree, I was being flippant on the overly flowery descriptions, but having read through the guidance on articles on colleges and universities, I cede that this (poorly written) description of the college is within the guidelines. The enrollment numbers, however, are sourced and more recent and should be fixed. 23.28.12.65 (talk) 02:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see that reference now - you included it in the lede paragraph. But you didn't include in the infoxbox which is where I was looking. I'll update the article and include a reference in both places.
You're welcome to edit the article, too! I recommend not making massive, article-spanning edits but editing sections one-at-a-time with clear edit summaries. That makes it easier for other editors to understand what you've done and why you've done it. ElKevbo (talk) 02:52, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your guidance and advice - you know a lot more about this than I do. I am but a simple man editing articles on IP and without an account. The culture of expectations is unknown to me. 23.28.12.65 (talk) 02:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And, for what it's worth, the only source in the college history is a literal marketing pamphlet for the college, thus, marketing materials. 23.28.12.65 (talk) 02:52, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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